It can be a little difficult to hold open with just one hand, but thats normal for limp covers. It will most likely be discontinued. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. With that said, my wife has used the calfskin TBS as her daily Bible since I reviewed it in January of 2013. I actually enjoy that cracking sound you referred to myself. VENDRE! The edition Im reviewing is the Mahogany Antique Cantara and its easily one of the prettiest covers Ive ever seen on a Bible. I believe the nation is experiencing the wrath of a righteous God, as was many times with the chosen nation of Israel, for their idolatries (of which Americas cup is full; the love of money perhaps foremost amongst many idols) and the Satanic blood sacrifice of the most helpless of life in over 53 million abortions of convenience. Although, I do agree with you that the tone that Randy has set on this blog in my opinion has not been followed. This without any doubt occurred in its manufacture. What do you think of the font comparison? List of Books and Their Abbreviations Lists all the books in Biblical order. Having said this I am aware of others who disagree. For safety concerns, earbuds are not permitted and this means that environment can be raised to quite a cacophony of discord in metal, heavy metal type music?? Perhaps, it is just vanity, but I really like the Westminster text block, one major reason is that it is not self-pronouncing, and appreciate a nice cover and the edge lined construction. Firstly, decided to check each page while hand holding the bible. It would be nice to be able to go to a website, select your translation, text layout, paper, type of binding, etc. Hi J. The Schuyler measures .129-.130 thick per 100 sheets (200 pages) versus .132 similarly for the TBS. KJV, Spirit-Filled Life Bible, Third Edition, Hardcover, Red Letter, Comfort Print: Kingdom Equipping Through the Power of the Word $27.49 (224) In Stock. The Holy Bible-Authorized King James Version-Indexed-Oxford University Press. Free shipping. Definitions are keyed with asterisks. I will add to what has already been said TBS Westminster is a good deal. And I agree with you that if customers would only look past the goatskin cover and focus more on the details we all might end up with a better product. I hope none of you all take any of my comments as meaning anything other than that. It would force more of the research into other books or bibles but that usually happens anyways. I have never seen such a pathetic example of the placement of ribbons in a bible. NIV - SCHUYLER QUENTEL IMPERIAL BLUE GOATSKIN. The buttero calfskin isnt as floppy, but I like it better than Allan gostskin. The Schuyler KJV Reference Bible is easily one of the best KJVs Ive ever seen. Funny thing is; I found a use for all but the Longprimer 63. Picture 1 of 6. Allan Oxford wide margin- obviously for writing. KJV Schuyler Canterbury Holy Bible Black Goatskin Full Yapp New (Other) C $680.56 Top Rated Seller or Best Offer from United States Sponsored THE NEW PILGRIM BIBLE, KJV By E. Schuyler English & Marion Bishop Bower ~ Quick Free Delivery in 2-14 days. It has a modern digital 9.6 font in black letter and it is one of the best fonts for reading that Ive seen in a KJV. Requested the black cover because perhaps there is probably more experience with the application of the gold gild than the silver? Your technical observations are most appreciated. Cambridge KJV Concord Reference Bible, Dark Blue Goatskin-RED Letter, Full Yapp. I will make my position clear in the hope that it may somehow smooth out any upset if indeed there is any. For what reason it was His pleasure to give life to this most unworthy and still unworthy sinner I know not. All this was carried out in a skilled and meticulous manner with what was on hand, although my hands-on experience is not of the book binding trade. I did not find the Navy with black lining to be objectionable. And it is a quality that used to exist, but seems forgotten in our time and place. There are no marks or damage. But thats just me being picky. Cover The Westminster Reference Bible is available in hardback or Meriva calfskin covers. Jul 16, 2022 | King James Version (KJV), Reference, Thomas Nelson | Recent. I do this not out of a sense of kindness, though that is there, but out of a sense of Christian Duty after prayerful consideration. The coloring is actually a bluish silver in daylight, a somewhat translucent effect. It is very informative of the translators thoughts on Bible translation and I highly recommend reading it. The effect of quality workmanship in this particular concern, as executed properly by Allan and LCBP is that the liner up to the start of the hinge is firmly anchored and is positioned quite close to the adjacent corner of the textblock. But in all fairness Ive also been informed that when it comes to bibles/books that paper does not really have that big of an impact on the overall cost of production. There is more show-through than I would like, but its only really noticeable in bright lighting. 2. When you use them we get a small commission on any sale but you dont get charged anything extra. Thanks for the update Christopher. A toothpick gently showed that there extended inboard an area that was not glued down. The Long Primer is definitely a more chocolate brown color. I have the both the hardback and calfskin TBS Westminster. Integrity of work does matter. As a result, this small area of liner material is pulled away from being secured to the inside of the cover. Pros This looks like a truly beautiful bible! I did order a hardback Westminster. (I wish the Quentels were this size!) I actually like that sound myself, but when Im in a quiet room it tends to be noticed by everyone. The cover joint between the spine and front is still of a large radius and the left portion of the front cover stays lifted a little from the textblock. without subheadings, references, etc., but at the same time remains practical for Bible study. CLICK HERE for photos. The endpapers were done in silk moir I believe it is called, also with multiple lines of imprinting on the spine and the front plus two ribbons. Same tint of the paper. I have the Schuyler in Mahogany as well as a 53BR. The references and notes make the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible a great study Bible by giving you tools to define words and compare Scripture with Scripture. His precious Word showed the error of my ways, the love that Christ had for those His Father gave Him, and by a contrite heart why one should conform to the image of His Son out of love for He loved us first. For this reason I usually like the slightly stiffer covers like the calf-split Concord, the calf-skin Clarion, and the TBS Westminster for holding in one hand to read. The KJV Reference is more comfortable to carry and hold. It is most prominently shown in a picture of the red cover bible (IMG_2356.jpg). Was able to see the not very well glued down ends of the flange. All of the businesses and ministries we have been discussing are either directly or indirectly doing the Lords work and deserve our respect. I think the criticism on this thread has been respectful and should be helpful to all concerned, so where did this feeling that at least one of us is upset about what has been said come from? Great size as well. Regardless, the blemish was slight in size and effect. Received my replacement Schuyler KJV in black goatskin. There is an overcast line of stitching in the front and the back. Your total cost would be the same as the Schuyler, but you wouldnt have to pay the bulk of it for many years. Rather than section headings, the Schuyler KJV Reference Bible has chapter summaries. For instance, Ive noted comments such as pathetic and unacceptable in the description of the Schuyler KJV Westminster and later the term lifeless was mentioned in regards to modern bible translations. The rich black cover is beautiful. My point being, is the opacity (lack of ghosting) better in one bible over the other? No significant difference, just sample variation. It has the same footprint as the Concord (just a little thicker) and the font is more like the Quentel is size and boldness. Picture Information. Nov 1, 2018 #1 I bought a Schuyler KJV Canterbury Bible. The red art dye with the gold gild looks very good, better than the former example in blue under silver. If you have not received a notification, we are still waiting for the shipment to arrive. Purchase Details. http://thefoolishgalatian.wordpress.com/2010/05/06/interview-with-paul-cline-of-evangelicalbible-com/. Has minor 325551481136 Randy, This is another feature that I think places this one above the Longprimer. Any idea when they will release some details about the Canterbury font size and Bible size? I originally bought most of these bibles with the intention of finding the ones that suit me best and selling or giving away the ones that dont. To cut to the quik, decided to try and gently lift the edge of the free endpaper if it was agreeable! The Westminster Reference Bible is an extensive reference Bible that is very reasonably priced for a Bible printed and bound by Jongbloead in the Netherlands with a soft and luxurious Meriva calfskin cover. When hand holding with the spine or tailband horizontal and you tilt or rotate the spine upwards toward a ~45 degree angle, either left or right side, you can feel a wobbleness (sic?). The best selling Schuyler Canterbury KJV Bible is now available in a Wide Margin format! Notes are keyed with numbers. I love those choices. With that said, how would you compare the color Antique Mahogany with the Brown on the Allan Longprimer? What effect this has on small businesses like Schuyler/EV Bible I cant say as I dont know how many give one time love offerings or regular tithes to the ministries. You can see this condition (not the end view air gap) in some of the pictures posted on EBs website. If I had those answers, I would imagine that there would be literally thousands willing to pay to consult with me. They dont have plans to bind them again. The embossing for the gold impressions on the cover and spine are shallow. I havent decided yet. I am though impressed with the quality of bibles as compared to other consumer products. to return to the once golden era? of hedonism and material accumulations (never repentance and turning to the ways of God). 3. What I determined was that the liner is not glued down to the inside of the cover right up to the beginning of the hinge radius of the liner or to say adjacent the beginning of the flange. 11 point Milo font PDF Sampler. Thank God for firms like EVB, Alans Cambridge, etc. ESV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Dark green Goatskin Full Yapp. Rated 4 out of 5. by mcintyre.robert You can see the blue through the silver and it has a very fine spotty pattern. I would recommend the examination of Allans and LCBPs craftsmanship as examples to study and emulate. All I wrote was in response to other input and the direction the postings have taken have lead me to believe that at some point someones feelings were injured perhaps by me or perhaps by someone else. Not worth it and they will certainly make nice gifts other than one kept for myself. Free shipping for many products! Am very satisfied with this example. A King James Bible unlike any other. TBS especially produces on their website scholarly articles directed to the support of the Authorised translation. I have decided to hold off on any purchase of a high end bible until they finalize and release a few more details on that one. I support LCBP, and TBS because I am sympathetic with their ministries. John has raised some valid points about current quality standards in publishing. It is beautiful in every way. Gold, Diamonds, Firearms, Coins. Are you certain that it will be slightly smaller than the Quentel? . I have been grinding no axe for any entity, indeed I am sympathetic to these companies and the problems they encounter while trying to serve us. And when you are reading, the visual impressions are identical! There are 32 blank pages in the back for notes. Cambridge uses a company in Belarus and for some editions Jongbloed, perhaps others, I dont know where for sure LCBP gets their textblocks, I dont think they are printing their own though I may be wrong. Schuyler has answered in two ways. That is exactly what I was seeing from the photos. I dont know how this thread beginning with an outstanding review by Randy, has turned into a discussion of the merits of various publishers and marketers of Gods Word. You will have to contact the seller. We appreciate your use of any of our links. The first bible page has some severe MULTIPLE creases (think accordion) starting from the gutter radiating in a circular path towards the top and bottom edges of the page for a couple inches from the gutter. Between this and my Clarion; I believe my bible needs are met:). That which was to follow was meet for the ever increasing apostasy of Christianity up to the present day. The format that TBS has in common with the Schuyler will be wonderful for those who prefer a softer cover. Or how precious even a mere scrap of a bibles page was to many in Russia and Eastern Europe in the communist cold war era. Im also waiting on the Canterbury. Allan. The art blueing could just as well have been not applied. FEATURES 11pt Milo typeface 6.1" x 9.1" trim size . I agree that it shares commonality with the Thompson and Clarion with references being next to their verses. Other than that one badly, accordion style, creased page, there seems to be no evidence of any gutter cockling, just as typical as in the TBS Westminster edition. Rare OOP Schuyler Reference KJV dark purple. It is edge-lined and perimeter-stitched for the highest quality binding possible. By tomorrow I will have either decided to keep it, and chalk it up as a sign of the times, or will call EVB to state its condition and see if they consider this sloppy ribbon placement unacceptable. The text is extremely easy to read for its size and also seems uninterrupted despite reference numbers being in the text. Its very readable even with the 4 columns on each page, and the cover is just amazing. Same paper, thickness, etc. So appreciate your comments, memory, and care. KJV Schuyler Treveris Holy Bible Black Goatskin Full Yapp. Can you tell me if there is any difference between this and the schuyler westminster reference other than the obvious like the goatskin or quality of the ribbons. But as things stand would not recommend these editions to any with a potential interest. Schuyler Signor. I am in my upper 30s in 10-15 years will the font in the Concord or the KJV Reference be too small to preach from? I believe it is directly related to the state of our society in general, and that applies to almost every aspect of it including the family. The goatskin seems flawless in its general pattern. Much craftsmanship and artistry goes into the design and quality of the Schuyler brand. And if Randy has an issue with anything I have posted, then in the future Ill attempt to practice a little more reservation when posting comments, information or links. Scriptura Bible Rebind Review. From my standpoint, Id say stay with the TBS Westminster. Or even a portion of the bible in the poorest quality print on wrinkled, aged newsprint! Glad to see I am not the only one. It has perimeter stitching and a yapp (overhang to protect the page-edges). I was not required to give a positive review only an honest review. I would also like to repeat, that in comparison with other retailers EVbible.com, for the most part, offers the best prices. If they carry an item, this is where it is bought from. 5. $152.50. The brown leather of my Schuyler is the most unique shade I have ever had, yet it is elegant and thick. (#133619670727 . There are products that have disappeared from the scene to be replaced by some other cheaper, less well designed and made substitute carrying the same brand and model number. The latter is according to their website; as for that reason I confine my order not to exceed the $200 mark. The cover flanges are pretty uniform and the excellent stitching is well within the flange borders. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. I know that there are other ministries and firms other than those I mentioned, and in the Christian Publishing environment, I have yet to encounter a scoundrel though some may exist. Theyre some of the nicest ribbons Ive seen in any Bible. In another sense, there will be some nice books of Gods Word to be passed on, after I cease this earthly existence. There are secular forums where there is much wailing about the state of the nation and all that we need to do is get back to the principles of the founding fathers, rebellion, etc. This makes it very readable. I REALLY love both of these Bibles. Its perfect for the pulpit, but I do prefer carrying the KJV Reference or Concord. Yet, history is replete with countless examples where his protection did not extend to the saving of the physical lives of His faithful, even those that sang praises of joy as their lives were extinguished in the most horrible manners and remained steadfast to their final breath. The longprimer has a much better verse separation with big bold print. Nevertheless, can one imagine the tears of joy and excitement if what we have today in the form of the Old and New Testaments, in the cheapest paperback conceivable, was available to the common saints and martyrs from the time of the first church to that of the printing press and afterwards!! The hinge area of the cover between its front and spine is quite large in radius. Schuyler Quentel KJV (when it comes out). The bible is beautiful and a wonderful size. From paper to natural Goatskin, the Schuyler label has determined to carve out a niche which has established itself as a unique label among Bible publishers. And, from what I understand a minimum print run of books/bibles is somewhere between 500 1000 copies. I ended up with the black because hey its a King James Bible, but after looking at your pictures I must admit the Mahogany is a real beaut. Concluded this was from the flexure while hand holding due to the very light embossing of this text. Its basic precept is quality and durability in every detail of the Bible. ZU VERKAUFEN! In 1611, the King James Version Bible, also known as the Authorized Version, was published. 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Schuyler Canterbury KJV, Full Yapp Black Goatskin Bible. Its worth contacting them. Schuyler Classic KJV This Bible is now out of print. This is totally unacceptable in an $185 bible if the makers of a $30 or so dollar bible can get this right. $349.99 + $9.95 shipping . This single bad page was such it was noticeable from the outside as the creases lifted or supported the pages above it. It actually has a range of colors that mix to create a lot of visual texture. The three bible options I am considering are as follows: I hold the Bible the same way you do. Schuyler has produced the Westminster with all the bells and whistles you would expect in a premium edition goatskin leather, edge-lined, stitched, art-gilt edges, and 4 thick ribbons. Was then able to easily separate each end for about 1.5 to 2 inches inboard in a diagonal manner before encountering much resistance at which point no more pulling back of the flange was attemped or even needed. Posted by Randy A Brown | Sep 22, 2013 | Bible Reviews, Bibles, King James Version (KJV), Reference, Schuyler Bibles | 57 |. All of that is a long way of bringing me to my question. Schuyler Bible's first KJV was their own production of the TBS Westminster. And this was the ONLY color advertized on another website (not EB just to clarify) and I get delivered the COLORED glossy hardbacks. OK! And just in case anyone is interested, the article below may shed a little light on the owner of Evangelicalbible.com and Schuyler brand bibles. Im pretty sure they would replace it for you. It makes reading much more enjoyable. One pair is located at the left edge of the headband as far as they could be placed. 55,000 Cross References Concordance Glossary of King James Terms Schuyler Bible Maps . Thank you for writing this review. A beautifully crafted New King James Bible in a clear single-column format for an exceptional Bible reading experience. Ive heard good things about their customer service and I know their goal is the highest quality possible. What blue that does show is of a very light coloration. I am just happy that we have access to to the large variety and high quality of Gods Word and related literature we have. It might be a while before they know for sure. Norm. This longitudinal bulge starts to form when the front cover is folded up about 90 degrees from its rest position against the textblock (bible laying flat on the table), you can than lightly push against this bulge with your finger and readily ascertain that there is an air pocket or air gap developed on its underside (its puffy). Between the Concord and the KJV Reference, I find the Concord font to be more comfortable to read from the pulpit or in dimmer light. Here are the issues that I had with my particular sample, one of which I feel is quite egregious for a bible line promoting the status of its workmanship and quality: 1. Not that it really means anything, but suspect that the TBS will not prove as durable in its end page hinges? It might end up being my preaching and carry Bible. This condition does not exist on the back, only the front. There is really only one advantage to the Schuyler aside from the goatskin aesthetics and that is the edge lined construction. I have dealt with EVB and can truly say that they are a fine company, I have purchased bibles from them, and have experienced nothing but top notch service and prices. I agree with you on the soft covers, which do not work very well on larger a sized bible, although the Goatskin on the Schuyler is heavier/thicker than the Calfskin on the LCBP. Im glad you like it! Let us all pray that the forces that want to suppress the Word of God not be allowed to prosper in this country. I love your idea of a large print text with dictionary in the back. I have also decided to mark (very tastefully and carefully) my Blues too, and ever so slight dings wont bother me as much as my lovely browns. Am not forgetful of the immeasurable worth of His Word. SCHUYLER KJV Canterbury Personal Size Bible (Goatskin Black) Like New! I dont have a problem with constructive criticism or an issue with someone comparing similar products manufactured by different companies, but in this case I thought it was unfair to compare the pricing. All three compare identical with each other. NASB (New American Standard Bible) New American Standard Bible 2020 (NASB) In today's video, we take look at an out of print KJV Schuyler Reference BiblePickup a TBS Westminster here - https://evangelicalbible.com/product-category/t. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Natural Grain Black Goatskin Cover with Red full Calfskin Leather Lining. You can see more about that here: http://www.tbsbibles.org/articles. I have the first generation as well. I am coming to a tentative conclusion that most real, practical needs can be adequately covered with ones choice of the TBS Westminster, Windsor, LCBP Cameo or one of their hand sized editions and one will not need to feel of having missed anything, but still have a quality choice and variety of good to excellent text blocks and durable covers with the obvious far cheaper prices. This was mentioned earlier. The KJV Reference font is prettier because its digital and I prefer it for general reading, but I do prefer the bolder fonts. Unfortunately its not edge-lined goatskin, but that can be fixed . I feels more shiny somehow than the matte chocolate highland goatskin of the Allan. SCHUYLER WIDE MARGIN KJV Bible - $307.92. Thats an impressive list and to place the 2nd ed. The merits of the container only. There are four luxurious ribbons in four colors: green, purple, brown, and gold. Both use the very same text block. Thanks for your excellent reviews. I agree with you about the overall size of the Westminster, although I certainly wouldnt mind if TBS and Schuyler eventually released a large print edition, but this is probably just wishful thinking on my part. The Schuyler Personal Size Canterbury Black Goatskin Bible is based on the full-sized Schuyler Canterbury Bible. I recommend signing up for the newsletter on that page and theyll send out updates as they get them. I think that most printing is indeed done overseas, this is due to the lamentable cost of labor and material here in the United States of America probably more than for any other reason. The text blocks are exactly the same. Schuyler looks at all the aspects of Bible Binding to produce a Bible that represents the highest quality in binding, materials, craftsmanship & legibility. !, I am disappointed, but somewhat numb to it all, so no big deal, but feel it all merits mentioning. I wish that they were produced here in the US, but that is not a big problem for me. Take for instance if you were to purchase a TBS Westminster, but you decided you wanted to have it bound in Goatskin or even a different color binding, your purchase price and the costs of the rebind will exceed the costs of a Schuyler, and happy hunting finding someone to stitch the perimeter of the binding for you. Ecclesiastes 9.10 Ive been tempted to get the hardcover. And no offense intended, but when it comes to spreading the gospel of GOD, I dont think TBS or LCBP is the only shop in town. Last time was in the 1986-1988 era! The Mahogany leather of the Schuyler is more of a tan color. I hold no animosity to those who hold other opinions, what is important to me is that the Bible be read, respected and honored, and most importantly that Gods Word be uplifted throughout the world.
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