Personally, I hate tattoos. He doesnt care about Shockeys appearance b/c Shockey isnt on sportscenter on a daily basis wearing a panthers jersey. Then Richardson would have to risk cutting talent (Im not a Cam fan), taking a PR hit and letting Cam take his talents to another team. LOL lets review the poll question: Should teams be able to tell players not to get tattoos or piercings? I removed my piercings, because its frowned upon in my profession. And to those who say there is no place that would fire an employee over tattoos and such I can name several Two are family entertainment venues namely Walt Disney who has strict policies against and Universal Entertainment. AGAIN. -. No visible tattoos and no piercings has been a policy at every job Ive ever had. McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. I have no problem with Richardson making a suggestion like that, its his company and hed like it if the face of his franchise was clean cut. In the wake of the Aaron Hernandez arrest, some eyebrows were raised at the news that authorities were scanning his vast array of tattoos for evidence of gang connections. We can pretend were past this as a society, but unfortunately were not. Dwyane Wade 8. He seems like an all around great guy. They dont have to work at the establishment. More people think the owners have the right to tell a guy if he can get tattoos and piercings or not? A sign of maturity would be to not get the tats to appease the owner and not really give a crap about it either. Despite winning everything in his career, Robert Lewandowski chooses to be humble and refuses to wear any tattoo on his body. Al Davis??? but to be able to dictate what one chooses to do with his/her body (as long as its not immoral/illegal) as an employer? And such is life! If he wants to cut all the players on the panthers with tattoos or piercings than he can tell Cam not to have any. Thats your right. But I would think, that if I am him, there will be another contract and I would not want to make the owner mad by defying him. That may hold true for fans. No long hair, no facial hair, etc, and no one has a problem with that. The Yankees have a long standing ban on facial hair and long hair, and thats been working all right for them over the years. If you do not like your employers grooming policy you can seek out one that better suits your style. That being said, most businesses have dress codes for their employees. You can do anything you want. But I cant have BOTH at this stage in my career. it makes little sense why Richardson is saying no tattoos or piercings to one guy, but not to others, but oh well. 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Michael Redd 12-26-2008, 05:39 PM #38 TMAC-RAPTORS Sharpshooter Join Date Oct 2008 Posts 2,173 Re: Name 10 current black players without Cam Newton doesn't have any tattoos on his body, and his ears are unpierced. Chris Paul 2. The reality is if Newton is playing top-level ball, Jerry isnt going to say jack-sh!t to him about his appearance, much less bench him for it. catman72 says: August 24, 2011 at 7:59 am Nothing wrong with JR stating his preferences to kid that hes going to draft and pay to be the face of his franchise. Bottom line is its up to the owner to decide how the team is presented to the fans. Even Jerry Jones is smarter than that. Let your play do the talking. These JR backers are really excited about being model employees and doing what your boss says. However, there is a middle ground..no visible tattoos. Why risk losing a commercial deal or something over a tatt. Thanks for clearing that up, Jerry! Well give you the last word on this one. If they are, then hell, I wish I was too. Does anyone actually think if Newton actually got a tattoo(s) or piercing(s), Richardson would actually fire or discipline Newton? He is the prototypical new wave QB, in my opinion. I do not think its unreasonable that he wants a certain image for his franchise. Being drafted by a team does not give Cam his only option look at Eli Manning he was not originally drafted by the Giants. Okay so I agree with the whole no visible tattoos in the normal workplace but the NFL is a lot different you dont apply for a team like you do in a normal job youre DRAFTED so I think the players can look however they want to and not have to pay the price because they got selected to a team with a strict coach. Obviously there are exceptions to this idea such as Mike Vick but even Vick acknowledged that before his stint in the clink he didnt spend near enough time studying. Players have to cover tattoos and be well groomed. He said, No, sir. Newton is entitled to pay attention, or to ignore him, and the CBA doesnt give Richardson any freedom to fine him. I said, Do you have any tattoos? Im not sure why NFL players should be any different. I think its probably aimed at the Look at me persona that a lot of NFL players have adopted. And the unfortunate truth is, in big business, image is EVERYTHING. Wrong. You are the biggest herd of sheep I have ever seen. He is just one of many muslim footballers without tattoos. He held up a photo of Steve Smith and said, Yeah, basically just dont be like this., Just take a look around the league If owners seriously considered only signing players who looked like choir boys they wouldnt even be able to field a team. Lavezzi, as well as being one of the strongest Argentine strikers, is one of the most tattooed football players in the world. This while working in Chicago. There is a difference in telling players and asking players. I didnt know Jerry Richardson was a Michelle Bachmann backer, - In many cases, people use tattoos/piercings as a form of self-expression. cam wont get to draw that line. Salman Chaudhary If Jerry wants the face of the Panthers to appear clean-cut, thats his right. Sure, they are drafted by a team and therefore obligated to play for them or else harm their chances of playing anywhere at all, but they are not shackled to the deck and forced to scrub the floors. Other dumb black QBs? Ronaldo is a great player on and off the pitch and has opted to help humanity. uncwseahawks25 says: Aug 24, 2011 8:57 AM. For someone who nearly died a few years ago and had to undergo a quadruple bypass, he has an odd way of showing an appreciation for life. Cam is just a kid and JR was just trying to set the stage for the owner-player relationship. Here's hoping he never feels a need to wear long sleeves under his 49ers jersey to cover the tattoos. Im not arguing the merit of the request with this post, but I do think youre off base if youre throwing out the companies have policies line here. 5. It sounds to me like Jerry was asking him to keep it the way he has. You should be able to suggest to the face of your franchise that he should keep it toned down and not get to wild in public. Chris Paul. ( conservatism reigns)Not unlike the person in the White House, Cam is being rejected for who he is and not what he does. Learn how your comment data is processed. Its none of his business. He is one of the few footballers without tattoos as it prohibited in his religion Islam. Thats it. While my personal preference is in alignment with Richardson, I am not ok with the implication that it is a requirement. Ive had jobs before that told me I cant have my hair too long or have any visible tattoos or piercings. It may not be your choice, and it may not be the most courageous choice, but its a legitimate choice. That being said, I dont think tats/piercings are as big of a deal as JR thinks they are. Though, he usually likes to show off his collection of cars that he has deserved. Would he have desired the came from Brady or Manning? The only superstar duo without tattoos is Embiid and Simmonds. It is up to them, however, I have higher opinions of players who choose not to get tattoos or piercings. A policy has to be written and has to apply uniformly to everyone in similar circumstances. The employer has a right to spend their money on a person who looks presentable. That is fine. How about this.let Cam get the tattoo then rescind his contract and let him sign somewhere else where there is actual talent around him. Sadio Mane loves playing football and only football. Sounds like a real bigot. Im sure a bunch of guys of similar appearance felt it they just sounded reasonable when they fought to maintain slavery and to prevent womens basic rights (like owning property or voting) as well. Its his team so he can do so. Besides, every other corporation has a dress code of some kind, it isnt like he would not have faced this perhaps in the work place elsewhere. Here you'll find all collections you've created before. He grew up during WWII for crying out loud. You can agree or disagree with Richardson. Turning this into a race issue is completely absurd. Too funny..All you knuckleheads comparing your company policy on tattoos to the NFL is as flawed as the NFLPA being compared to the UAW. First thing he should have asked his new QB is whether he though he could win a Super Bowl. Its a whole lot easier to sell big business on a nice-looking, clean cut young man like Cam Newton, as opposed to a player like Chris Johnson with all the hair, tattoos, and gold teeth. Web13) Ezequiel Lavezzi, the Jesus and Mary tattooes. Hell, I took my mother-in-law to get her 1st tattoo for her 60th birthday. Richardson is trying to keep Cam Newtons already tainted name from getting anymore questionable. Big difference, in the case of the Yankees its team wide, where with Cam its just him. Not to be superstitious but a tattoo would definitely mess up the team mojo if he got one now, right? The sneaker features the fan-favorite "Shattered Backboard" colorway, with white leather on the base and black. I dont care what why he tries to spin it, those comments were clearly racist.. Its not about race or slavery or any of that other B.S. No wonder the panthers blow. i work for a guy that wanted to fire someone because they had an extra-marital affair with someone who wasnt affiliated with the job. Yeah, I think owners have every right to decide whats important to them in building their brand, including whether their most marketable player has tattoos. In a recent interview on "The Charlie Rose Show", Jerry Richardson recounted a conversation he had with Cam Newton on April 4 in which he asked Newton if he had any tattoos or piercings. I guess I can see the owners point as the face of the franchise but man it sure sounds pretty old school. I. - From full-sleeve tribal tattoos, nameplates and even tropical sunsets. He is one of a few footballers without tattoos. But he would be smart to play along. Calf Football Tattoos 10. 16. Speaking to an interview he explained: I dont have tattoos because I donate blood very often. The guys is paying him millions of dollars to be the face of his franchise. In the real world one is not restricted to one team or look for a new line of unemployment. As others have pointed out, the Yankees enforce a dress code for their players. I wondered how I would have felt if one of my back surgeons showed up in his scrubs with arms full of tattoos and lips, nose, cheeks and ears pierced. This is kin to Cowherd making his point that Romo needs to take that damn backwards baseball cap off.. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis. Football player Odell Beckham Jr is one of the most famous wearers of the mohawk burst fade, so take your cues from him if youre looking to try out this bold and attention-grabbing style. NFL players show off 2022 'My Cause, My Cleats' footwear. Any job like that is going to have image standards and moral terpitude clauses. Truth is though, Richardson is doing Newton a favor. Man I usually HATE when the race card is played but this sure walks a fine line. Arent there baseball teams that dictate whether a player can grow a beard? Its called be an adult and realizing that you dont just get to do whatever you want and not possibly suffer consequences. Ryan Leaf has no visible tattoos or piercings, but I wouldnt want him on my team. if you read the question as stated, then the CLEAR answer should be NO. some families are probably turning off pro sports right now, just because of this explosion of tats in the last 15 years.). nflofficeadmin says: Aug 24, 2011 6:03 AM. This is no different than someone going to work for a store that required a certain presentation.thats what the owner wants.his team.if Newton doesnt like it, he doesnt have to play! Teams should let players know what they expect form their players, and if the players get tatoos then they should know that their owner frowns on it. With Cam Newton, I understand Jerrys position; he wants a clean cut guy to represent the franchise. WebNFL players without Tattoos. And Im sure his agent wanted the commission on that money. Virgil Van Dijk Gets A Huge Compliment From Michael Owen. Employers generally dont want people with visible tats/excessive piercings interfacing with customersunfortunately some NFL players are pretty much always interfacing with customers because they are famous. Tattoo or not. The winner has been LEAKED, Cristiano Ronaldo scores STUNNING first-half hat trick for Al Nassr as he totals 2 HAT-TRICKS IN 3 GAMES. Facial feature distorting PEDs are allowed though. If you had something worth 500 million dollars, would you be worried what any of the posters on PFT thought? If Cam decides to get a piercing or tat, Im sure he will. The main reason Ronaldo does not have tattoos is that he donates blood regularly. What flies in NY or even the ATL may not work in the Charlotte market. NOW that is FUNNY. It would be one thing if he had a hardline policy where he refused to draft any players who had tatts or piercings. In my opinion, in most cases, tattoos and piercings just make players look immature and unprofessional. Operation Sports Forums > Football > Madden NFL Football > Madden Will work with any roster or draft class but doesn't have tattoos for any player without face scan. The first one relates to the pre-draft meeting between Richardson and quarterback Cam Newton. Now, if he gets all tatted and pierced up like Dennis Rodman, his options will be fewer. Im not sure why NFL players should be any different. When bosses complain about tattoos and such it is because they feel the tattoos are embarassing and they dont want to lose business. Also look to the military, sure soldiers, sailors, and airmen get tats, but if they are visible like on the face or hands they are subject to article 15 under the USMJ destruction or harm to Government Property like the individual who could be reduced in rank and subject to discharge. There are 31 other that might want to employ me, so its your choice sir! Are you guys Fn kidding me? Richardson doesnt care if Cam has a white girl, just not his grand daughter, ha ha. I know there are those who will argue the New York Yankees no facial hair rules if one wants to play for the organization. Please explain how you managed to make this about race, I gotta see this. A company that owns the right to tattoos on NBA players is suing the makers of "NBA2K" for graphically representing those tattoos on NBA players without his permission. I have also placed him on the mythical collegiate, Mt. By even asking this question of Cam, JR has now planted a seed in Cams mind that maybe he should ask JR before doing anything that Massa JR dont prefer. Anyone whos worked in the real world knows this isnt uncommon. If you work ANYPLACEyou have to follow rules. They want the money too. Thats just fact. Your poll question says telling players which is a problem. Jerry Richardson is becoming the East Coast Al Davis Barcelona legend Andreas Iniesta refused to wear tattoos during his footballing career and is one of the few footballers without tattoos. Angry, by Richardson has every right to tell Newton not to get Tattoos or piercings. Richardson, who said that Newton was dressed perfectly for their meeting, was blunt. You guys side with the people in power on everything. I disagree with the assertion. He certainly has a right to do whatever he wants. I have said more than once that if scientists went into the lab to design the perfect QB they would emerge with Cam Newton. If my QB is spending any time under the needle for a superficial piece of body art instead of studying film or learning every positions responisibility on every single play than he is mismanaging his responsibilities as a professional and I wouldnt trust him as the leader of my franchise. I know I dont. But I believe what Richardson is doing is to save face and not create any unwarranted stereotypes or problems within his organization. Please explain how you managed to make this about race, I gotta see this. WebThe adidas Predator Absolute Gold dropped without warning this morning, November 1st, 2022 on adidas. I have tats all overhowever, I now work in a field that requires I cover them when there. NFL players can have as many tattoos as they want, and they do not have to cover them under any rules. Im not saying its right or wrong; thats just how it is. I didnt realize having tattoos and piercings was unreasonable. I know many companies you require that no tatoos or piercings be visible. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. In the end it is Cams decision how idiotic he wants to make himself look. Youre right. owners of a business dont actively seek out 1 person, they set a standard that all applicants have to adhere to. I guess it is a fair assumption you have never heard of the CFL, UFL or Arena Football League. I have no opinion about whether players should have tattoos or not. Sleeve Football Tattoos 5. This clause is enforced @ ALL TIMESwhether she is on or off duty. Appearing as guests on PBSs Charlie Rose (thanks for the heads up, SportsBusiness Daily), Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and Panthers owner Jerry Richardson talked about a variety of issues. Oh my God! Many business have dress codes and personal conduct codes. updated March 23, 2022, 7:35 am That being saiduntil the NFL states itI dont think the individual owners have the right as they are just pieces of the whole organization. As the face of the organization for (presumably, if everything goes well) the next 10+ years, if not for life, you want to roll out a conservative image. Nothing wrong with JR stating his preferences to kid that hes going to draft and pay to be the face of his franchise. Guess again. Lionel Messi or Kylian Mbappe? Its not like this is new. Arm Football Tattoos 4. But if Cam wants to go out and get a Tyson tat on his face and a superman style F*ck JR tattoo across his chest, Richardson wouldnt have any grounds to fine him or anything like that He could cut him, but thats the same with any team, piss the owner off and risk getting cut. David Luiz is a devout Catholic like most South Americans and wearing tattoos is prohibited. While Im sure Richardson is an old-school guy who has low regard for any manner of body ornamentation, this isnt so much about Jerry imposing his own personal values on a player; its a matter of maintaining and maximizing Cams image and marketability, particularly as it relates to the corporate sector. Fans may be the lifeblood of the NFL, but theyre going to be there regardless. - Web1. Sounds like a real bigot. (Peppers) And I think by all accounts hes a model citizen but thats just me. If the owner of a club wants to project an image, and said player wants to continue to work for that owner, then he should do everything possible to work with the owner. . So, Richardson is right and I would be the same way, if it were my business. Richardson, while appearing to be draconian, is essentially correct. A winning QB gets the endorsements, so as long as he win games then his endorsements will be there. However, Richardson definitely has control issues, so Newton would be smart not to make this an issue. Last I checked, if the OWNER wants one of his EMPLOYEES to exhude a certain image, then the EMPLOYEE had better comply. Cam Newton has no opportunity, zero, to find gainful employment in his chosen field other than to work for JR. Im a bleeding heart liberal, but believe Richardson is within his rights here, and its to Cams best interest. The more disturbing reality is that Jerry Richardson likely pushed for Newton based on his responses to this question, rather than picking the guy who has the best chance to succeed. Either way, there is nothing JR can do if Newton goes and gets a dozen tattoos and piercings tomorrow. The hard-earned money comes in the way of corporate sponsorships and advertising dollars. The players are going to fill that lost in their new collective barging agreement. If you explain the business reasons , most would go along. On the other hand Im a little disapointed in Cam. There is a difference between this is our policy and, do you have any tattos? Instead they are becoming more involved in the Global Business that their team is and investing their personal time into the players, employees, and teams. They also have the right to have it backfire on them if it turns out nobody really cares if a football player has tattoos, and all this conversation does is plant the seed among other players that maybe this isnt a guy you want to play for. Its a simple process and then you feel happy because you know you are helping another person. I thought, Oh my God! My mate was in and he felt proper awkward.. Its ok to have dress codes and other policies for an organization, but young players have tattoos and piercings. Its fact of life. A man child would go get tatoos despite what the guy said. While Cam is not a front office guy he is the CEO on the field. Yet, he touts that player/owner title as if he is a players owner. McDonalds can tell me pretty much the same thing. If Carolina finishes with better than .500 record, their fans wouldnt care if Queequeg was their QB. The New York Yankees do the same thing with all of their players. Richardson: Oh yea, by the way no white girls either Cam. I am fairly sure that Cam wouldnt have chosen the Panthers had he had the opportunity. should rememberand how could they forgetthat Newton, as a union member, is covered by a collective bargaining agreement that sets out the conditions of his employment. He thought he had the right to demand to be allowed to represent the company his way; problem is, it wasnt his company. I have several tats that are in memory of loved ones who have diedas well as several others that have special meaning. To tell Cam in this way borders on taking away his freedom on speech through written expression. Can somebody find out if Jerry ever asked these questions to a white player? This mentality is being shoved down all of americas work force as Unions are being forced out. My job gets done the same whether I have hair like repunzel or Im completely bald, whether I have a collared shirt on or not, whether I have piercings or not, or whether I have tattoos or not. Once Mike learned that he needed to put in the extra time he became a much more successful pro QB and not just a freakish hybrid RB. Hes difficult, and in all liklihood the reason he doesnt want newton to have tattoos is because of a misconcdption about whether Newton can be successfully marketed while simultaneously being tatted and black.
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